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Warhammer 40K DiscussionHey guys, I want to hear thoughts on builds capable of doing 111+ (ie, 99%+) missions easily.
I know that certain builds are good in certain conditions, but it doesn't seem to me that there is anything capable of doing ANY 99 mission efficiently anymore. Prove me wrong.
Currently, I'm using a Thunder Hammer build that peaks in exposed state. The beefy damage (ie, the one that can theoretically kill anything if the mob density is good and if the mob is surrounding the tough enemy/ies) comes from the 15% chance for enemies to explode upon death.
Here are the pros and cons:
+80/60/60/60 once I go into exposed state
+pretty good damage reduction because of the 80/60/60/60 DR/resists, the +40% damage reduction below 50%, and the 50% DR from the 6-psalm doctrine (the one that takes 50% damage taken from suppression, which, in my case, is infinite because of AB1)
+OK damage vs trash
+great damage vs high density packs, as long as I get lucky
+good mobility, due to the 1, 4 combo (Thunder Hammer leap skill, armor jump)
+hit max crit str breakpoint with my inoculator
-shitty damage vs 111s and higher
-1 skill knocks back the trash mobs...which is exactly what I DON'T want...I want them to be close together.
-because I'm using AB1 + the DR doctrine, I'm always in the bottom portion of the yellow, meaning knock backs can get very annoying...
-my inoculator only has 5 charges...and it's what keeps me alive during the tough fights
Anyway, based on what I've seen so far, the only good things capable of doing the toughest missions right now are:
-explode on death/stun death vs high density packs (some supreme missions are ideal for this kind of build)
Lemme know if you've discovered anything OP that can breeze through 99s. I had to restart again, so I lost my wealth and items...so I had to depend on ancients I found during VCs. They're OK, but I think I could become stronger if I was using normal relics...ancients helped me get back on my feet, but their lack of customizability really hurts them when you're trying to do the hardest content.
My current build (changed a bit since my original post):
https://imgur.com/a/SZj289I
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They could already compete with +10 missions.
They could already compete with +10 missions.
lol...3-shot was ALREADY at triple damage. The doctrine was bugged. It would only subtract 50% damage, so if you had 800%+ extra damage, you would instead be doing 750%+. It was NERFED. I told you this twice already...don't know how hard it is to grasp?
Also, the -30% is worse than it actually is (and it's already bad). I explained it to you before, but I guess you have trouble understanding English?
The builds right now are ass...only gimmicky/situational stun splode builds can still do certain high-level supremes in a relatively efficient manner. Rest has become dog shit.
ROFL look at this dude struggling to take down a supreme that I could do with my eyes closed in about 5 seconds before Nerfcore went crazy with the nerfbat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3aMvaleCM
Shotty OP!!!!!! WOW
It's sad watching stuff like this...
And, of course, he had to use an explosion gimmick build...
Another gem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJUxJVCBahA
The title says "very fast" LOLOL
I could do this supreme (+14) in less than 30 seconds before Nerfcore's horrible patch.
Very fast indeed...
They could already compete with +10 missions.
1) slowness
2) a stun splode/death splode gimmick
3) both
Admit it guys, Nerfcore/Bugcore played you all. They turned your previously strong characters into walking turds. They did this so that a small, but vocal minority of scrubs would stop crying about "bwaaaaaaaaaalance" on Discord, despite them not even being good at the game (not that the game takes skill).
You guys will have to grind even more than before, and many of you will most likely quit (as expected).
That's what this is about...grind. Nerfcore loooooves grind, and whenever something is good, they will destroy it.
Now, what's left? I guess Psyker precog, stun splode, and death splode. They're pathetic and inconsistent as hell, but you know Nerfcore is salivating at the thought of killing off whatever decent stuff still exists.
I love how he posts up vids, doesn't share the builds or his equipment in the vids, and also ignores my statement of Demolition Armour is key to the build, because, you know, it destroys the big stuff significantly faster then that shotgun ever will. He admiyts his innoculator is crap, buta lso tells us that it is the ONLY thing keeping him alive with his 5 charges only. He's using digitalw eapons but you don't actually need to be using digital weapons at all. But hey, I'm apparently full of it and taht gives him the right to abuse me, guess I ain't sharing crap with him beyond what I have thus far.
Ten of course in his vids he fluffs around killing off little crap instead of focusing the big stuff and killing the little stuff if he still wants to after the clear, and goes on about how slow it is to clear the mission objectives (runninga way and using sentinel turrets, so noob at that difficulty!) but hey, I suppose being a douchebag when someone makes a comment is how this dude rolls, so all power to him hating the game and not beinga ble to refine his build to clear things with his crusader in a relatively speedy fashion (because it's crusader and it's always been slower then some other classes and their builds).
1. I don't think the highest difficulty level should be able to be smashed though in 30 seconds, that's making it trivial, and something needs nerfing in that case.
2. If triple shot demo armor missiles are more effective than main weapons themselves, that kind of proves the point that there's less diversity. Something wrong there too imo.
I love how he posts up vids, doesn't share the builds or his equipment in the vids, and also ignores my statement of Demolition Armour is key to the build, because, you know, it destroys the big stuff significantly faster then that shotgun ever will. He admiyts his innoculator is crap, buta lso tells us that it is the ONLY thing keeping him alive with his 5 charges only. He's using digitalw eapons but you don't actually need to be using digital weapons at all. But hey, I'm apparently full of it and taht gives him the right to abuse me, guess I ain't sharing crap with him beyond what I have thus far.
Ten of course in his vids he fluffs around killing off little crap instead of focusing the big stuff and killing the little stuff if he still wants to after the clear, and goes on about how slow it is to clear the mission objectives (runninga way and using sentinel turrets, so noob at that difficulty!) but hey, I suppose being a douchebag when someone makes a comment is how this dude rolls, so all power to him hating the game and not beinga ble to refine his build to clear things with his crusader in a relatively speedy fashion (because it's crusader and it's always been slower then some other classes and their builds).
Jesus Christ, you definitely having a reading/comprehension problem.
1) Those aren't my vids.
2) My nade Sader was one of the best in the game.
3) You don't know what you're talking about (I pointed this out to you more than once, but you seemingly can't read, you can't understand, and you think you're right, when you're dead wrong).
4) You will not be posting vids anytime soon...why? Cause you're full of it, and you're a liar.
5) I had a channel where I posted many vids of my nade Sader destroying +14s. I shouldn't have deleted it. That way, I could help scrubs such as yourself see how weak and pathetic the current builds are (yours included).
1. I don't think the highest difficulty level should be able to be smashed though in 30 seconds, that's making it trivial, and something needs nerfing in that case.
2. If triple shot demo armor missiles are more effective than main weapons themselves, that kind of proves the point that there's less diversity. Something wrong there too imo.
You're right, and that's why I (as did other hardcore players) recommended they add difficulty dropdowns so that we could keep challenging ourselves and hopefully get better rewards.
Instead, they just nerfed the good stuff and made the enemies have 10x more health. Nerfcore to the rescue!
Also, missile armor was ridiculously strong pre-nerf...I could take out +14 elites in less than a second (3-shot made it ridiculous because it boosted its already high base damage by a factor of 9 (3x the missiles + 3x the damage from the bugged 3-shot doctrine)).
Here are my predictions for the future of the game:
1) vulnerability rune will be nerfed (it seems to be working...when I tested months ago, the damage was ass)
2) Psyker precog will be nerfed bigly...making Psykers cry when they find out they can't move without getting 1-shotted at higher difficulties.
3) stun splode/death splode will be nerfed, making the only big damage source become extinct (game will become a 5 minute hackathon)
4) invulnerability will be nerfed (the event gift turned out to be really good)
5) the damage from suppression 6-pslam doctrine will be nerfed (it synergizes very well with AB1)
Anything good, Nerfcore will target. They want to ensure ppl grind for peanuts. That's their team philosophy.
I love how he posts up vids, doesn't share the builds or his equipment in the vids, and also ignores my statement of Demolition Armour is key to the build, because, you know, it destroys the big stuff significantly faster then that shotgun ever will. He admiyts his innoculator is crap, buta lso tells us that it is the ONLY thing keeping him alive with his 5 charges only. He's using digitalw eapons but you don't actually need to be using digital weapons at all. But hey, I'm apparently full of it and taht gives him the right to abuse me, guess I ain't sharing crap with him beyond what I have thus far.
Ten of course in his vids he fluffs around killing off little crap instead of focusing the big stuff and killing the little stuff if he still wants to after the clear, and goes on about how slow it is to clear the mission objectives (runninga way and using sentinel turrets, so noob at that difficulty!) but hey, I suppose being a douchebag when someone makes a comment is how this dude rolls, so all power to him hating the game and not beinga ble to refine his build to clear things with his crusader in a relatively speedy fashion (because it's crusader and it's always been slower then some other classes and their builds).
I love how he posts up vids, doesn't share the builds or his equipment in the vids, and also ignores my statement of Demolition Armour is key to the build, because, you know, it destroys the big stuff significantly faster then that shotgun ever will. He admiyts his innoculator is crap, buta lso tells us that it is the ONLY thing keeping him alive with his 5 charges only. He's using digitalw eapons but you don't actually need to be using digital weapons at all. But hey, I'm apparently full of it and taht gives him the right to abuse me, guess I ain't sharing crap with him beyond what I have thus far.
Ten of course in his vids he fluffs around killing off little crap instead of focusing the big stuff and killing the little stuff if he still wants to after the clear, and goes on about how slow it is to clear the mission objectives (runninga way and using sentinel turrets, so noob at that difficulty!) but hey, I suppose being a douchebag when someone makes a comment is how this dude rolls, so all power to him hating the game and not beinga ble to refine his build to clear things with his crusader in a relatively speedy fashion (because it's crusader and it's always been slower then some other classes and their builds).
Didn´t think I would and should get thrown full of shit like this for such and my one and single a comment, but... Uuummm, uuhhh, okeee.
I shall be more careful of what and how I comment on posts in the future. Thank you for enlightneing me, in such a manner. Even though I do not understand it all. But ... Oh well.
And yes, what you said is true. I told trebron55 on Discord that Nerfcore should make EVERYTHING good...even OP. That makes for a fun game. What they did is basically kill the already dwindling variety.
Also, I'm not exaggerating when I say this...I do not think Nerfcore seriously tests their game. It seems to me that they either listen to a bunch of casual scrubs on Discord, or their QA/balance team spends a few hours the night before a patch to see if everything "works".
Didn´t think I would and should get thrown full of shit like this for such and my one and single a comment, but... Uuummm, uuhhh, okeee.
I shall be more careful of what and how I comment on posts in the future. Thank you for enlightneing me, in such a manner. Even though I do not understand it all. But ... Oh well.
Re-read the first post mate. I only ever said "He", I never directed anything at you. I was agreeing with you and expanding.
As you can see from his other myraid responses he talks big then demands other people put up videos but his channel mysteriously disappeared and he can't prove anything he is citing. Funny that.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic or smart-ass or anything but sincere here, so that said:
Why do you still play?
Most of your posts the last couple months are pretty negative, and I can't help but wonder:
Why honestly do you still play? You seem to be pretty unhappy about the current state of the game.
Re-read the first post mate. I only ever said "He", I never directed anything at you. I was agreeing with you and expanding.
As you can see from his other myraid responses he talks big then demands other people put up videos but his channel mysteriously disappeared and he can't prove anything he is citing. Funny that.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic or smart-ass or anything but sincere here, so that said:
Why do you still play?
Most of your posts the last couple months are pretty negative, and I can't help but wonder:
Why honestly do you still play? You seem to be pretty unhappy about the current state of the game.
I enjoy the game, but honestly, it's mainly because I invested time and effort into it and because I'm stubborn. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't buy it. In fact, I refunded it after the first few hours because I thought it was boring. Maybe I should have (better) listened to myself...
I do have faith that Diablo 4 will be amazing, though...but who knows how many years away that game is.
I enjoy the game, but honestly, it's mainly because I invested time and effort into it and because I'm stubborn. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't buy it. In fact, I refunded it after the first few hours because I thought it was boring. Maybe I should have (better) listened to myself...
I do have faith that Diablo 4 will be amazing, though...but who knows how many years away that game is.
Diablo 4?! I had no clue that Blizzard was even working on it! #instantbuy
Re-read the first post mate. I only ever said "He", I never directed anything at you. I was agreeing with you and expanding.
As you can see from his other myraid responses he talks big then demands other people put up videos but his channel mysteriously disappeared and he can't prove anything he is citing. Funny that.
This ends up getting me into the crossfire, when I should be totally outside of it. It also ends up people downvoting me and my posts, and makes me the kinda bad one here. And all this just also confuses me a bit. And it also makes me even think that I really shouldn´t be the one who posted the first thing here at all. And this whole thread here also seems to have been blown out of proportions here. And I think I should just move out of the whole thread here, and stay away from it.
This ends up getting me into the crossfire, when I should be totally outside of it. It also ends up people downvoting me and my posts, and makes me the kinda bad one here. And all this just also confuses me a bit. And it also makes me even think that I really shouldn´t be the one who posted the first thing here at all. And this whole thread here also seems to have been blown out of proportions here. And I think I should just move out of the whole thread here, and stay away from it.
Here's my current build (gets owned by 99%+ missions...gets owned by some lower level missions as well...thx Nerfcore):
https://imgur.com/a/SZj289I
There are some things I would like to change...but I'm poor now, so I can't afford to reroll whenever I feel like it.
This ends up getting me into the crossfire, when I should be totally outside of it. It also ends up people downvoting me and my posts, and makes me the kinda bad one here. And all this just also confuses me a bit. And it also makes me even think that I really shouldn´t be the one who posted the first thing here at all. And this whole thread here also seems to have been blown out of proportions here. And I think I should just move out of the whole thread here, and stay away from it.
You didn't do anything wrong, other than misreading AuretiousTaak's response. They just were responding to your post, which is why it was quoted, and providing a reason that no one was responding to treecargarage's question.
You were never in the crossfire. I think you probably got downvoted because you misread AuretiousTaak's response. In fact if you closlely read AuretiousTaak's second post he specifically mentions that he was "...agreeing with you and expanding."
So chill, feel free to post, nobody is out to get you :)
Set this current order state as My default.